Which came first, the SV or the 599? They're so close, ergonomically, you'd think they were related. The SV has slightly less bar rise but doesn't feel a lot sportier from the saddle. You get a nice, neutral riding position that seems to fit all but the tallest riders. Our measurements show the Suzuki has the tallest saddle, though; consider that aspect "under construction" for the 2004 model.